Wednesday, July 6, 2011

CANDIDATE'S VOTE CORRECTED

 Harvey White wrote in a Oct 31, 2007 letter to the Times that it was Clif Schneider his opponent in the race for Cape Vincent Town Board, not  Tom Rienbeck. The Times printed a retraction/correction and the minutes tell a different story, so who is right?

Mr.White wrote the following
“Actually, Supervisor Thomas Rienbeck and other council men voted to implement zoning, but Councilman Cliff Schneider voted no, and stopped the zoning from going into effect.”[sic]

  The vote that Mr. White was referring to actually went like this Supervisor Reinbeck resolved to, “Discontinue the process of amending the Town of Cape Vincent Zoning Law to regulate wind towers.”
Mr. Schneider sent the Town Board Minutes to the Watertown Times and they wrote a retraction/correction.

As reported in the Watertown Times

CANDIDATE'S VOTE CORRECTED
A letter Wednesday from Harvey White, Cape Vincent, misrepresented town Councilman Clifford Schneider's vote on a zoning law for wind towers. According to minutes of the Aug. 28, 2006, board meeting, Mr. Schneider voted against a motion "to discontinue amending the town of Cape Vincent zoning law to regulate wind.

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To look at the minutes that reflect the vote click here

5 comments:

Art Pundt said...

What is posted here about Clif;s vote is correct.

But there is a much much bigger implication to this vote.

The resolution by Rienbeck and Orvis was to STOP the wind law process. Clif vote NO, in otherwords don't stop the process that was started on a wind law.

But here is the thing. In the minutes it is indicated that the resolution FAILED. So if the resolution to STOP the wind law FAILED, then shouldn't it have continued, and why didn't it and why don't we have a wind law????

For example. Let's say the TB decides in a vote to buy a snowplow. Suddenly some councilmen change there mind and offer another resolution to reverse the vote to buy the plow, but it fails. Seems to me you would still be buying a snow plow...right?

The wind law process was started, they had a draft law, they had a public hearing on the law, and declared a positive declaration under SEQR to do a EIS. Then suddenly there is this resolution to STOP the wind law process that failed...so what happened to the wind law?

The insidious thing is that these guys didn't like the way a democratic vote came out...the vote to stop the wind law...it failed, and the wind law process should have continued. So what do they do? They just go on and ignore the failed vote that didn't support their agenda and should have continued the wind law process. They just killed the wind law by ignoring it like it never existed.

The defeat of the wind law is not the worst thing they did here.

These elected officials, elected to uphold the public trust in a representative democracy simply screwed democracy when it didn't work for their agenda. It doesn't get much worse than that.

Anonymous said...

Lest not we forget the companion piece to killing the draft wind law of 2006, Rienbeck stating he will direct the planning board to adopt it as a set of guidelines for their site plan review. If their resolution killed the draft wind law, then passing it on to the planning board effectively buried it.

Anonymous said...

"So, what is it Harvey, are you mixed up, ignorant or a DAMN LIAR?"

That about says it all.

Anonymous said...

The person, who seems to feel compelled to lie about both the small and large stuff has a problem. We often call these folks pathological liars (which is a description, not a diagnosis). They lie to protect themselves, look good, gain financially or socially and avoid punishment. Quite often the person who has been deceived knows that this type of liar has to a certain extent deluded him or herself and is therefore to be somewhat pitied.A much more troubling group are people who lie a lot — and knowingly — for personal gain. These people may have a diagnosis called antisocial personality disorder, also known as being a sociopath, and often get into scrapes with the law. Lying often gets worse with the passage of time. When you get away with a lie it often impels you to continue your deceptions. Also, liars often find themselves perpetrating more untruths to cover themselves

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:29 AM

I am not a liar. I'm just stupid and igorant.

Warvey Hite