Town of Cape Vincent Special PB meeting Status of BP's Appilcation
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Thoroughly refreshing and very encouraging.
Just watched the video from far away. Normally it would not be too much to expect to have the town planning board looking out for the welfare of the whole community.
But given past history, this is something to celebrate.
Thank you, Chairman MacSherry, for conducting a meeting that does not make the people a nuisance to be endured.
I see that Mr. Macsherry mentioned that he was involved with the very powerful Voter for Wind spokesman and pro wind political activist Gary King and was trying to negotiate for the majority opinion of the community. Mac and non-leaseholders in the community wanted safer sound restrictions that would protect health and property values. Mac said the leaseholders and Bp refused to negotiate.
Gary King is a very high level Bp Voter for Wind spokesman often seen at the Bp office. He is also a local high level political activist who was apparently involved in the Harvey White, Mason and Mason conservative endorsement which took the pressure off the democrats who may have feared anti-wind candidates who might have come to their caucus. The democrats had already told one potential non-wind lease candidate to back off. And, oooops, they forgot to file on time to get any candidates on their own party line. How many people in the Cape actually believe that Darrel, Jim and Harold would forget a thing like that?
Mr. King also acts as the powerful chair of the Citizens for Fair Government. Mr. King once suggested to the town board that they put a bunch of town people in a room and settle the whole thing in a one afternoon session. Of course the people King recommended to make the big wind development decisions were all conflicted and his recommended think tank even included a representative from the developer.
Mr. King was also involved the controversial voter fraud petition that claimed belief in voter fraud that according to the BOH never existed. Both elections were certified and no formal protest or voter complaint was actually made and proven.
I commend Mr. Richard Macsherry on his very strong statement pointing out that pro-wind leader and high level political leader King and his wind developer leaseholders and pro wind supporters had refused to negotiate. Another example of what Bp has left out of Its PIP.
The other side of the Bp community engagement must be explained to the New York State Public service commission.
Also, Mr. Mac, if you read this stuff I want to point out that the leaseholders were meeting on a regular basis to plan business strategies and community activist strategies for their development. Because of the numerous conflicts of interest of the public officials as well as conflicted employees in the former town clerk's office the leaseholders had availability and access to all of what was going on in the town government as well as control over the massive nearly 200 thousand dollar wind developer escrow account. According to a document submitted to the town board that account was the topic of an illegal and controversial town planning board meeting that was called by Richard Edsall and included board member Donald Mason and Mr. Edsall's wife who was probably active with the leaseholder meetings since she was always taking meeting notes. The conflicted Edsall had hired a downstate "wind lawyer" whose firm also had experience in suing towns on behalf of wind developers if they did not get what they want.
That wind lawyer wrote a plan that would get them around the majority conflicts of interest vote on the town board. Like in the case of a PILOT And guess what? As I think I remember, Edsall's wind lawyer suggestion was that they could pass the vote on to Edsall's planning board since they apparently were a little less conflicted.
While Bp was "engaging with the community" it appears its leaseholders were "engaging with the government".
Because of all the conflicted past, I would ask a PSC siting board to discharge the validity of all of the Bp past community engagement.
That meeting was announced as a work session. Unlike Macsherry Edsall did not allow for any privilege of the floor comments.
At the back of the room one night at an Edsall chaired meeting members of Marion Trieste's favorite group, dressed in green shirts, shouted at a town of Lyme planning official, a Bp stakeholder at the time, to sit down, shut up and go home.
Bp failed to list some of those public voter for wind displays of engagement as part of their public involvement program.
That meeting was announced as a work session. Unlike Macsherry Edsall did not regularly allow for any privilege of the floor comments. In a fifty second meeting and discussion during a well deserved and justified public outburst by concerned anti wind citizens who were not being allowed to be engaged, it suddenly turned into a business meeting and a motion was made to accept wind developer terms that we never fully discussed and scrutinized. By discussion it was apparent to many that some PB members had not even read the EIS and other documents from the developers. The town economic turbine impact study was also ignored and never publicly discussed by the former PB. Lawyers being paid by Bp and Accionia from the town escrow account sat at the table and let it happen. At the back of the room one night at an Edsall chaired meeting members of Marion Trieste's favorite group, dressed in green shirts, shouted at a town of Lyme planning official, a Bp stakeholder at the time, to sit down, shut up and go home. Bp failed to list some of those public voter for wind displays of engagement as part of their public involvement program. The PSC must be made fully aware that their is another, more important for the community, side of the engagement story. The side that Bp and their community organizer would never even give the courtesy to listen to and would blatantly deny as did their spokesman, Gary King when he publicly refuted the entire town economic report, first version. The voters for wind did not regularly attend any of those meetings and most likely never read the report that King refuted.
Another example of community engagement in Cape Vincent, NY. Again, reported in the Watertowon Daily Times.
One Saturday morning, Cape Vincent, NY hosted a several county coalition meeting of political and civic groups who opposed wind and had a message to deliver that was factual but different from the Marion Trieste-Bp-Acciona message. The public was invited. A few members of of Marion Trieste's favorite group showed up which of course was their right since ti was held in a public place.
Accoding to witnesses and the victim, a member of the Marion Trieste pro wind group became obstinent about passing some papers when confronted and jumped an anti-wind guy from behind and took him to the floor.
Now! That is what I call community engagement by the wind developer's and their local leaseholders. The group that Bp touts in their PIP.
The incident was reported in the Watertown Daily Times but not included as part of the Bp PIP.
That event is another PIP event that Bp has failed to report in their PSC declaration.
Again, I hope someone in Cape Vincent, NY will send the New York State Public Service Commission proof of the community engagement events that Bp has failed to declare.
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Thoroughly refreshing and very encouraging.
Just watched the video from far away. Normally it would not be too much to expect to have the town planning board looking out for the welfare of the whole community.
But given past history, this is something to celebrate.
Thank you, Chairman MacSherry, for conducting a meeting that does not make the people a nuisance to be endured.
The past PB gave the community a hosing with the 50 second meeting. As part of the community engagement it can be re-visited.
We are truly blessed. Thank you
Mr. Macsherry.
I see that Mr. Macsherry mentioned that he was involved with the very powerful Voter for Wind spokesman and pro wind political activist Gary King and was trying to negotiate for the majority opinion of the community. Mac and non-leaseholders in the community wanted safer sound restrictions that would protect health and property values. Mac said the leaseholders and Bp refused to negotiate.
Gary King is a very high level Bp Voter for Wind spokesman often seen at the Bp office. He is also a local high level political activist who was apparently involved in the Harvey White, Mason and Mason conservative endorsement which took the pressure off the democrats who may have feared anti-wind candidates who might have come to their caucus. The democrats had already told one potential non-wind lease candidate to back off. And, oooops, they forgot to file on time to get any candidates on their own party line. How many people in the Cape actually believe that Darrel, Jim and Harold would forget a thing like that?
Mr. King also acts as the powerful chair of the Citizens for Fair Government. Mr. King once suggested to the town board that they put a bunch of town people in a room and settle the whole thing in a one afternoon session. Of course the people King recommended to make the big wind development decisions were all conflicted and his recommended think tank even included a representative from the developer.
Mr. King was also involved the controversial voter fraud petition that claimed belief in voter fraud that according to the BOH never existed. Both elections were certified and no formal protest or voter complaint was actually made and proven.
I commend Mr. Richard Macsherry on his very strong statement pointing out that pro-wind leader and high level political leader King and his wind developer leaseholders and pro wind supporters had refused to negotiate. Another example of what Bp has left out of Its PIP.
The other side of the Bp community engagement must be explained to the New York State Public service commission.
Also, Mr. Mac, if you read this stuff I want to point out that the leaseholders were meeting on a regular basis to plan business strategies and community activist strategies for their development. Because of the numerous conflicts of interest of the public officials as well as conflicted employees in the former town clerk's office the leaseholders had availability and access to all of what was going on in the town government as well as control over the massive nearly 200 thousand dollar wind developer escrow account. According to a document submitted to the town board that account was the topic of an illegal and controversial town planning board meeting that was called by Richard Edsall and included board member Donald Mason and Mr. Edsall's wife who was probably active with the leaseholder meetings since she was always taking meeting notes. The conflicted Edsall had hired a downstate "wind lawyer" whose firm also had experience in suing towns on behalf of wind developers if they did not get what they want.
That wind lawyer wrote a plan that would get them around the majority conflicts of interest vote on the town board. Like in the case of a PILOT And guess what? As I think I remember, Edsall's wind lawyer suggestion was that they could pass the vote on to Edsall's planning board since they apparently were a little less conflicted.
While Bp was "engaging with the community" it appears its leaseholders were "engaging with the government".
Because of all the conflicted past, I would ask a PSC siting board to discharge the validity of all of the Bp past community engagement.
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That meeting was announced as a work session. Unlike Macsherry Edsall did not allow for any privilege of the floor comments.
At the back of the room one night at an Edsall chaired meeting members of Marion Trieste's favorite group, dressed in green shirts, shouted at a town of Lyme planning official, a Bp stakeholder at the time, to sit down, shut up and go home.
Bp failed to list some of those public voter for wind displays of engagement as part of their public involvement program.
9:27
That meeting was announced as a work session. Unlike Macsherry Edsall did not regularly allow for any privilege of the floor comments. In a fifty second meeting and discussion during a well deserved and justified public outburst by concerned anti wind citizens who were not being allowed to be engaged, it suddenly turned into a business meeting and a motion was made to accept wind developer terms that we never fully discussed and scrutinized. By discussion it was apparent to many that some PB members had not even read the EIS and other documents from the developers. The town economic turbine impact study was also ignored and never publicly discussed by the former PB.
Lawyers being paid by Bp and Accionia from the town escrow account sat at the table and let it happen.
At the back of the room one night at an Edsall chaired meeting members of Marion Trieste's favorite group, dressed in green shirts, shouted at a town of Lyme planning official, a Bp stakeholder at the time, to sit down, shut up and go home.
Bp failed to list some of those public voter for wind displays of engagement as part of their public involvement program.
The PSC must be made fully aware that their is another, more important for the community, side of the engagement story. The side that Bp and their community organizer would never even give the courtesy to listen to and would blatantly deny as did their spokesman, Gary King when he publicly refuted the entire town economic report, first version. The voters for wind did not regularly attend any of those meetings and most likely never read the report that King refuted.
Another example of community engagement in Cape Vincent, NY. Again, reported in the Watertowon Daily Times.
One Saturday morning, Cape Vincent, NY hosted a several county coalition meeting of political and civic groups who opposed wind and had a message to deliver that was factual but different from the Marion Trieste-Bp-Acciona message. The public was invited. A few members of of Marion Trieste's favorite group showed up which of course was their right since ti was held in a public place.
Accoding to witnesses and the victim, a member of the Marion Trieste pro wind group became obstinent about passing some papers when confronted and jumped an anti-wind guy from behind and took him to the floor.
Now! That is what I call community engagement by the wind developer's and their local leaseholders. The group that Bp touts in their PIP.
The incident was reported in the Watertown Daily Times but not included as part of the Bp PIP.
That event is another PIP event that Bp has failed to report in their PSC declaration.
Again, I hope someone in Cape Vincent, NY will send the New York State Public Service Commission proof of the community engagement events that Bp has failed to declare.
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